Comments on: Mobile and web accessibility - killing two birds with one stone http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:14:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: iheni http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/#comment-822 iheni Sat, 03 May 2008 15:42:33 +0000 http://www.iheni.com/?p=133#comment-822 Hey Lisa, I spotted this via your Tweet, really well written, and yes I think we are definitely on the same wave length :-) Also saw you'd signed up to the mobile course - should be good, I'm looking forward to it. Hey Lisa, I spotted this via your Tweet, really well written, and yes I think we are definitely on the same wave length :-) Also saw you’d signed up to the mobile course - should be good, I’m looking forward to it.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/#comment-811 Lisa Fri, 02 May 2008 13:57:31 +0000 http://www.iheni.com/?p=133#comment-811 hey Henny funny you should suggest that :) Your last couple of posts inspired me to do just that. I hadn't actually seen your comment above, but we must be on the same wave length ;) http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/05/01/the-open-letter-initiative-and-the-mobile-web/ hey Henny
funny you should suggest that :) Your last couple of posts inspired me to do just that. I hadn’t actually seen your comment above, but we must be on the same wave length ;)
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/05/01/the-open-letter-initiative-and-the-mobile-web/

]]> By: iheni http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/#comment-782 iheni Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:59:53 +0000 http://www.iheni.com/?p=133#comment-782 <strong>@Lisa:</strong> yes it was a long way to go but well worth it! Do you guys have Mobile Monday's? It may be worth bringing up the cross over of MWBP and accessibility there or including it on the agenda on a Barcamp or Web Standards meetup. We have the odd thing going on here but I agree with you in that it is not talked about enough (hence the reason for this blog!). Another thing I find is that if you talk about it in the context of a business case for mobile or web access I find that this tends to make people listen more. <strong>@Micheal: </strong>thanks for your comments. There is definitely more thought to go into this and anaylsis of where there are cross overs and clashes. As with all guidelines I think the key is to remember that they are guidelines (or for mobile web best practices) so a healthy pinch of pragmatism needs to be added to the pot when implementing guidance. The key is to understand the user and think of pages and designs from a user and not just designer developer perspective. I agree also about having a larger clickable area. This is why I'm a fan of images and a link text being presented within the same link. This is a catchall solution (providing the image is given null alt text). In terms of making links understandable I have to say I'm a fan of a well worded yet short link. <strong>@Per: </strong>many thanks for sharing this and for your emails. Apologies that I haven't got this up on the site sooner but it is now! Keep me posted on progress with the Initiative. @Lisa: yes it was a long way to go but well worth it! Do you guys have Mobile Monday’s? It may be worth bringing up the cross over of MWBP and accessibility there or including it on the agenda on a Barcamp or Web Standards meetup. We have the odd thing going on here but I agree with you in that it is not talked about enough (hence the reason for this blog!). Another thing I find is that if you talk about it in the context of a business case for mobile or web access I find that this tends to make people listen more.

@Micheal: thanks for your comments. There is definitely more thought to go into this and anaylsis of where there are cross overs and clashes. As with all guidelines I think the key is to remember that they are guidelines (or for mobile web best practices) so a healthy pinch of pragmatism needs to be added to the pot when implementing guidance. The key is to understand the user and think of pages and designs from a user and not just designer developer perspective.

I agree also about having a larger clickable area. This is why I’m a fan of images and a link text being presented within the same link. This is a catchall solution (providing the image is given null alt text). In terms of making links understandable I have to say I’m a fan of a well worded yet short link.

@Per: many thanks for sharing this and for your emails. Apologies that I haven’t got this up on the site sooner but it is now! Keep me posted on progress with the Initiative.

]]> By: Per http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/#comment-759 Per Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:24:31 +0000 http://www.iheni.com/?p=133#comment-759 Maybe this is interesting for some of the readers as well: http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Letter_Initiative It's an open letter to companies from the mobile technology sector. Henny, I would like to read more from you tagged with mobile and accessibility. Maybe this is interesting for some of the readers as well:
http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Letter_Initiative
It’s an open letter to companies from the mobile technology sector. Henny, I would like to read more from you tagged with mobile and accessibility.

]]> By: Michael Stenitzer http://www.iheni.com/mobile-and-web-accessibility-killing-two-birds-with-one-stone/#comment-756 Michael Stenitzer Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:16:07 +0000 http://www.iheni.com/?p=133#comment-756 Interesting presentation, thanx for your regular updates from Bejing. One note on your "short links": according to a lot of usability research links shouldn't be too short. Longer link texts help users to get an idea of what's behind that link. It also increases the clickable area (Fitt's law). If you want to read more on the subject i recommend http://www.uie.com/reports/scent_of_information/ and the respective articles. Interesting presentation, thanx for your regular updates from Bejing.

One note on your “short links”: according to a lot of usability research links shouldn’t be too short. Longer link texts help users to get an idea of what’s behind that link. It also increases the clickable area (Fitt’s law).

If you want to read more on the subject i recommend http://www.uie.com/reports/scent_of_information/ and the respective articles.

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